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		<title>Comment on Is Caroline Kennedy a good choice? by HZL2</title>
		<link>http://knowthecauses.wordpress.com/2008/12/28/is-caroline-kennedy-a-good-choice/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>HZL2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 23:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest, I haven&#039;t been following this appointment too closely.  As a citizen of Illinois, I have had my own senate appointment mess to keep track of.  However, my initial concern about a new Senator Kennedy would be that the state of New York has so many qualified and seasoned candidates for the position, that appointing Caroline as the Senator will appear to be nothing other than a quid pro quo for her role in helping Pres. Obama.  She may be perfectly qualified, but appearances count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, I haven&#8217;t been following this appointment too closely.  As a citizen of Illinois, I have had my own senate appointment mess to keep track of.  However, my initial concern about a new Senator Kennedy would be that the state of New York has so many qualified and seasoned candidates for the position, that appointing Caroline as the Senator will appear to be nothing other than a quid pro quo for her role in helping Pres. Obama.  She may be perfectly qualified, but appearances count.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shape of the Race for new energy by jaf</title>
		<link>http://knowthecauses.wordpress.com/2008/12/26/the-shape-of-the-race-for-new-energy/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>jaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a tough distinction to make politically.  Either way, what if we invest in battery storage but the market beats us on battery production.  Then what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a tough distinction to make politically.  Either way, what if we invest in battery storage but the market beats us on battery production.  Then what?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shape of the Race for new energy by hzl2</title>
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		<dc:creator>hzl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the automakers can&#039;t cooperate effectively, that&#039;s been proven.  If they had the ability to look out for the best interest of the industry, then we would have had more efficient vehicles ages ago.  I see the issue of the car battery separately from the issue of battery storage for wind and solar energy.  Aid from congress to the former would be a pretty apparent promotion of a national industry at great risk of being outdone by other national competitors. I am not sure this is a role they should play--although they have done so before.  On the other hand, I see promotion of battery storage for wind and solar energy as a global imperative that would have particular national advantages if we were responsible for it.  I know this is a subtle difference at best, but it seems more right to support the latter and let the former be decided on market principles (to the degree that those still exist).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the automakers can&#8217;t cooperate effectively, that&#8217;s been proven.  If they had the ability to look out for the best interest of the industry, then we would have had more efficient vehicles ages ago.  I see the issue of the car battery separately from the issue of battery storage for wind and solar energy.  Aid from congress to the former would be a pretty apparent promotion of a national industry at great risk of being outdone by other national competitors. I am not sure this is a role they should play&#8211;although they have done so before.  On the other hand, I see promotion of battery storage for wind and solar energy as a global imperative that would have particular national advantages if we were responsible for it.  I know this is a subtle difference at best, but it seems more right to support the latter and let the former be decided on market principles (to the degree that those still exist).</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Shape of the Race for new energy by jaf</title>
		<link>http://knowthecauses.wordpress.com/2008/12/26/the-shape-of-the-race-for-new-energy/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>jaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is the way to reclaim the American auto industry, why haven&#039;t the auto execs been pushing for it in Washington?  Especially if it would keep factory workers relevant.  Plus I would have to imagine that the American advantage in infrastructure (one we&#039;re slowly losing) has to make some difference.  

Is it time for Congress to actively intervene to promote a public good?  Perhaps if the automakers can&#039;t cooperate effectively...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is the way to reclaim the American auto industry, why haven&#8217;t the auto execs been pushing for it in Washington?  Especially if it would keep factory workers relevant.  Plus I would have to imagine that the American advantage in infrastructure (one we&#8217;re slowly losing) has to make some difference.  </p>
<p>Is it time for Congress to actively intervene to promote a public good?  Perhaps if the automakers can&#8217;t cooperate effectively&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The fallacy of a more liberal (or progressive or left-wing) Europe by Jan</title>
		<link>http://knowthecauses.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/the-fallacy-of-a-more-liberal-or-progressive-or-left-wing-europe/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Europe for sure isn&#039;t the Netherlands... I myself live in the dutch-speaking part of Belgium (Flanders) and I have to say that the view that lives about Holland in the international media isn&#039;t correct... Don&#039;t understand me wrong: it is a liberal country but they are so many clichés.

If you say Eastern Europe is a bastion of social conservatism I have to say you are incorrect... In Europe a lot of people are secular and that also counts for Eastern and Central Europe: they had the horros of WOII and the not religious policies of the USSR.

And for the rise of the far right in Europe? Jorg Haider, who recently lost his life in a car accident, had a homosexual relationship. As for Philip De Winter in Belgium and his party &#039;Vlaams Belang&#039;: it lost more and more seats in the parliaments (during the citycounsil-elections in &#039;06 and later on in &#039;07 in the federal elections) and has a declining support in the national polls. And the Front National of Jean-Marie Le Pen in France even has no seats in the parliaments what so ever!

And if you consider gaymarriage: you are right if you say that only 4 European countries allow it, but there are only 6 worldwide! You also forget to say that in most EU-memberstates that don&#039;t allow GM they have civilunions or registered partnerships that give gays in Europe more rights than in the most states of the US. Not less than 19 American states have absolutly no anti-discrimination laws for sexual orientation, and 9 more only have protection for state employment! This is absolutly unthinkable (even illegal) in the European Union!

And for immigration I have to say you are right if you say that the EU looks more and more on a Fortress... but that&#039;s only perception: we always had bordercontrole but the last years it became more effective because it was made supra-national (meaning: it went for a large part to the European Union, though national memberstates have still a say in it).
I don&#039;t like Sarkozy that much, he maybe isn&#039;t interracial but he also is a son of an immigrant. In a lot of national governements there are interracial (a lot of them aren&#039;t even interracial) ministers (France, Spain, The Netherlands, Belgium,...) it just isn&#039;t a big issue here.
And what do you say about the fact that Obama would have been elected with an enermous landslide in Europe?
And don&#039;t be mistaken: we didn&#039;t need marshes to Capitol Hill to give &#039;those&#039; people rights.

Foreign Policy under the neo-cons? Radical systemic change?  
I found your post very intresting, but the part on foreign policy is just ridicule!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Europe for sure isn&#8217;t the Netherlands&#8230; I myself live in the dutch-speaking part of Belgium (Flanders) and I have to say that the view that lives about Holland in the international media isn&#8217;t correct&#8230; Don&#8217;t understand me wrong: it is a liberal country but they are so many clichés.</p>
<p>If you say Eastern Europe is a bastion of social conservatism I have to say you are incorrect&#8230; In Europe a lot of people are secular and that also counts for Eastern and Central Europe: they had the horros of WOII and the not religious policies of the USSR.</p>
<p>And for the rise of the far right in Europe? Jorg Haider, who recently lost his life in a car accident, had a homosexual relationship. As for Philip De Winter in Belgium and his party &#8216;Vlaams Belang&#8217;: it lost more and more seats in the parliaments (during the citycounsil-elections in &#8216;06 and later on in &#8216;07 in the federal elections) and has a declining support in the national polls. And the Front National of Jean-Marie Le Pen in France even has no seats in the parliaments what so ever!</p>
<p>And if you consider gaymarriage: you are right if you say that only 4 European countries allow it, but there are only 6 worldwide! You also forget to say that in most EU-memberstates that don&#8217;t allow GM they have civilunions or registered partnerships that give gays in Europe more rights than in the most states of the US. Not less than 19 American states have absolutly no anti-discrimination laws for sexual orientation, and 9 more only have protection for state employment! This is absolutly unthinkable (even illegal) in the European Union!</p>
<p>And for immigration I have to say you are right if you say that the EU looks more and more on a Fortress&#8230; but that&#8217;s only perception: we always had bordercontrole but the last years it became more effective because it was made supra-national (meaning: it went for a large part to the European Union, though national memberstates have still a say in it).<br />
I don&#8217;t like Sarkozy that much, he maybe isn&#8217;t interracial but he also is a son of an immigrant. In a lot of national governements there are interracial (a lot of them aren&#8217;t even interracial) ministers (France, Spain, The Netherlands, Belgium,&#8230;) it just isn&#8217;t a big issue here.<br />
And what do you say about the fact that Obama would have been elected with an enermous landslide in Europe?<br />
And don&#8217;t be mistaken: we didn&#8217;t need marshes to Capitol Hill to give &#8216;those&#8217; people rights.</p>
<p>Foreign Policy under the neo-cons? Radical systemic change?<br />
I found your post very intresting, but the part on foreign policy is just ridicule!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Joe Biden vs. Sarah Palin: a study in contrasts by jbhgvb</title>
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		<dc:creator>jbhgvb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mccain is a coplete fool.</description>
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		<title>Comment on A good article and my personal debate scorecard by jaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still, I really don&#039;t like the fact that Obama continually refuses to get behind sensible free trade agreements like with Colombia.  His reference to the targeting of Colombian trade unionists is a completely baseless accusation: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/29/opinion/29schumacher.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin.  

So I&#039;m incredibly disappointed in Obama for rehashing this favorite excuse of protectionists.  Plus his support of the Farm Bill, one of the most horrendous pieces of legislation in recent years, and his stance on Midwestern ethanol (a sinkhole for federal funding if there ever was one) are appalling.  He should know better.

If McCain wants my sympathy (if not my vote, which he won&#039;t have courtesy of Sarah Palin), he should hammer Obama on these points: [1] Free trade, [2] Farm Bill, and [3] Energy policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still, I really don&#8217;t like the fact that Obama continually refuses to get behind sensible free trade agreements like with Colombia.  His reference to the targeting of Colombian trade unionists is a completely baseless accusation: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/29/opinion/29schumacher.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/29/opinion/29schumacher.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin</a>.  </p>
<p>So I&#8217;m incredibly disappointed in Obama for rehashing this favorite excuse of protectionists.  Plus his support of the Farm Bill, one of the most horrendous pieces of legislation in recent years, and his stance on Midwestern ethanol (a sinkhole for federal funding if there ever was one) are appalling.  He should know better.</p>
<p>If McCain wants my sympathy (if not my vote, which he won&#8217;t have courtesy of Sarah Palin), he should hammer Obama on these points: [1] Free trade, [2] Farm Bill, and [3] Energy policy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The vice-presidential debate: Joe Biden vs. Joe Six-pack by Stephen Dewart</title>
		<link>http://knowthecauses.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/tonights-debate-joe-biden-vs-joe-six-pack/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Dewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;re all missing a crucial ingredient here:  the ingenious McPalin expectation strategy.  It&#039;s all but been acknowledged by the campaign itself that Palin is an asset especially for recruiting the base of the Republican party, many of whom do not identify with McCain himself.  So when she screws up on a major East Coast talk show, as any gee-golly outsider from Alaska is probably prone to do, who does it really hurt?  Who really cares if the op-ed pages of the NYT and Obamaniacs decry her effort?  In the end, can she energize the base that McCain almost lost?  And I think that answer is &quot;yes&quot;.  The base is looking for talking points -- stuff about being hard-handed and strong (think the &quot;maverick&quot; bullshit); stuff about gay marriage (think the family values mantra); stuff about what an awful human being the other guy is (think the Ayers/Wright saga); stuff about liberal mythology (think the global warming farce); etc.  And so what if she can&#039;t form a complete sentence?  By handbook protocol, simply blame the liberal -- no, elite -- no, &quot;gotcha&quot; -- journalism and media for being so hard and not telling the people what they want to hear (which itself is prophetic since the campaign decides what apparently it is that we want to hear).  Net net ... wrap it all up and what do ya gat?  Gravely low expectations.  So -- and I&#039;ll shift to past-tense here -- when she stood up on Thursday and spouted more constructive and formulaic rhetoric -- i.e., she could complete an English sentence about said base-energizing issues -- she became a winner in many people&#039;s eyes.  Think about it -- the outsider who isn&#039;t too familiar with -- if not exploited by -- these elite media types, who rises from that rubble (not her doing, of course), takes on this big Washington insider with such feisty language and confident physique.  How could she not be seen as the winner by those who matter to her and her boss?  Being pushed on the ground -- by liberals, no less -- only to stand up big and tall creates a bigger statement -- certainly a bigger bang for your buck -- than merely standing the whole time.

P.S.  What do you guys think about her non-answer to Couric&#039;s question about what she reads?  I think -- for the purposes of &quot;her audience&quot; -- that it was a smart move.  She says WSJ, and Joe Appalachia may think &quot;Isn&#039;t that the newspaper of all those Wall Street boys who have screwed my 401k?&quot;  She says NYT, and her friends from Alaska will wonder if she&#039;s not an East Coaster in disguise.  She says National Review and most of the country will say &quot;What&#039;s that?&quot;  She names a local Alaska newspaper and intelligent people will say &quot;That&#039;s her WORLDview source?&quot;  Etc. etc. etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;re all missing a crucial ingredient here:  the ingenious McPalin expectation strategy.  It&#8217;s all but been acknowledged by the campaign itself that Palin is an asset especially for recruiting the base of the Republican party, many of whom do not identify with McCain himself.  So when she screws up on a major East Coast talk show, as any gee-golly outsider from Alaska is probably prone to do, who does it really hurt?  Who really cares if the op-ed pages of the NYT and Obamaniacs decry her effort?  In the end, can she energize the base that McCain almost lost?  And I think that answer is &#8220;yes&#8221;.  The base is looking for talking points &#8212; stuff about being hard-handed and strong (think the &#8220;maverick&#8221; bullshit); stuff about gay marriage (think the family values mantra); stuff about what an awful human being the other guy is (think the Ayers/Wright saga); stuff about liberal mythology (think the global warming farce); etc.  And so what if she can&#8217;t form a complete sentence?  By handbook protocol, simply blame the liberal &#8212; no, elite &#8212; no, &#8220;gotcha&#8221; &#8212; journalism and media for being so hard and not telling the people what they want to hear (which itself is prophetic since the campaign decides what apparently it is that we want to hear).  Net net &#8230; wrap it all up and what do ya gat?  Gravely low expectations.  So &#8212; and I&#8217;ll shift to past-tense here &#8212; when she stood up on Thursday and spouted more constructive and formulaic rhetoric &#8212; i.e., she could complete an English sentence about said base-energizing issues &#8212; she became a winner in many people&#8217;s eyes.  Think about it &#8212; the outsider who isn&#8217;t too familiar with &#8212; if not exploited by &#8212; these elite media types, who rises from that rubble (not her doing, of course), takes on this big Washington insider with such feisty language and confident physique.  How could she not be seen as the winner by those who matter to her and her boss?  Being pushed on the ground &#8212; by liberals, no less &#8212; only to stand up big and tall creates a bigger statement &#8212; certainly a bigger bang for your buck &#8212; than merely standing the whole time.</p>
<p>P.S.  What do you guys think about her non-answer to Couric&#8217;s question about what she reads?  I think &#8212; for the purposes of &#8220;her audience&#8221; &#8212; that it was a smart move.  She says WSJ, and Joe Appalachia may think &#8220;Isn&#8217;t that the newspaper of all those Wall Street boys who have screwed my 401k?&#8221;  She says NYT, and her friends from Alaska will wonder if she&#8217;s not an East Coaster in disguise.  She says National Review and most of the country will say &#8220;What&#8217;s that?&#8221;  She names a local Alaska newspaper and intelligent people will say &#8220;That&#8217;s her WORLDview source?&#8221;  Etc. etc. etc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Defending the Iraq War by MMM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hzl2 - I think you&#039;re reading jaf&#039;s argument unfairly, at least in your analogy to the &#039;cheating husband&#039;. I don&#039;t think he&#039;s saying that the war was a good thing, just that we need to reserve judgment - and, critically, that we shouldn&#039;t let assessments made on such a short timeframe drive decision-making with the sorts of long-term implications that a pull-out/stay-in choice necessarily has. 

I think we can all agree that the arguments initially tendered for the Iraq war were full of falsehoods and misrepresentations. That doesn&#039;t necessarily imply that there weren&#039;t good grounds to go to war, however. While I certainly wouldn&#039;t commit to the position that it was a good decision, I can see a not unreasonable argument being made in its favor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hzl2 &#8211; I think you&#8217;re reading jaf&#8217;s argument unfairly, at least in your analogy to the &#8216;cheating husband&#8217;. I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s saying that the war was a good thing, just that we need to reserve judgment &#8211; and, critically, that we shouldn&#8217;t let assessments made on such a short timeframe drive decision-making with the sorts of long-term implications that a pull-out/stay-in choice necessarily has. </p>
<p>I think we can all agree that the arguments initially tendered for the Iraq war were full of falsehoods and misrepresentations. That doesn&#8217;t necessarily imply that there weren&#8217;t good grounds to go to war, however. While I certainly wouldn&#8217;t commit to the position that it was a good decision, I can see a not unreasonable argument being made in its favor.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Common sense does not point towards the common man (or woman) by MMM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the populace&#039;s interest in placing a &quot;common man&quot; at the helm is really a response to a type of Principal-Agent problem.

My guess is that most people don&#039;t know what the smart policy is in most settings - and who can blame them? Many of the questions we face, as a society, are extremely complicated ones, and a detailed look at them is time-consuming and often fruitless, especially if the person looking doesn&#039;t have the sort of expertise that is required to parse large amounts of unorganized information and theories. In fact, the way we get around this is to elect politicians to analyze this information for us, and proceed accordingly. In other words, we, the principals, select agents to act on our behalf.

So how do we go about choosing agents? My sense is that many people look for someone who, they believe, &quot;understands&quot; them, and shares their values. And this is, to some extent, a question of character and values, particularly as reveled through track record. It&#039;s also probably driven by unconscious elements as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the populace&#8217;s interest in placing a &#8220;common man&#8221; at the helm is really a response to a type of Principal-Agent problem.</p>
<p>My guess is that most people don&#8217;t know what the smart policy is in most settings &#8211; and who can blame them? Many of the questions we face, as a society, are extremely complicated ones, and a detailed look at them is time-consuming and often fruitless, especially if the person looking doesn&#8217;t have the sort of expertise that is required to parse large amounts of unorganized information and theories. In fact, the way we get around this is to elect politicians to analyze this information for us, and proceed accordingly. In other words, we, the principals, select agents to act on our behalf.</p>
<p>So how do we go about choosing agents? My sense is that many people look for someone who, they believe, &#8220;understands&#8221; them, and shares their values. And this is, to some extent, a question of character and values, particularly as reveled through track record. It&#8217;s also probably driven by unconscious elements as well.</p>
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